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Guess who's back! That's right, kids, Mark Millar (The Ultimates, Wolverine: Old Man Logan) and superstar artist Carlos Pacheco (Avengers Forever, X-Men) blast into the Ultimate Universe for a mind-blowing, heart-pounding, and gut-wrenching event of epic proportions! When a highly-classified secret threatens Captain America, only the newly-returned Nick Fury has the tools t Guess who's back! That's right, kids, Mark Millar (The Ultimates, Wolverine: Old Man Logan) and superstar artist Carlos Pacheco (Avengers Forever, X-Men) blast into the Ultimate Universe for a mind-blowing, heart-pounding, and gut-wrenching event of epic proportions! When a highly-classified secret threatens Captain America, only the newly-returned Nick Fury has the tools to bring 'em in! Collecting: Ultimate Comics Avengers 1-6


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Guess who's back! That's right, kids, Mark Millar (The Ultimates, Wolverine: Old Man Logan) and superstar artist Carlos Pacheco (Avengers Forever, X-Men) blast into the Ultimate Universe for a mind-blowing, heart-pounding, and gut-wrenching event of epic proportions! When a highly-classified secret threatens Captain America, only the newly-returned Nick Fury has the tools t Guess who's back! That's right, kids, Mark Millar (The Ultimates, Wolverine: Old Man Logan) and superstar artist Carlos Pacheco (Avengers Forever, X-Men) blast into the Ultimate Universe for a mind-blowing, heart-pounding, and gut-wrenching event of epic proportions! When a highly-classified secret threatens Captain America, only the newly-returned Nick Fury has the tools to bring 'em in! Collecting: Ultimate Comics Avengers 1-6

30 review for Ultimate Comics Avengers: Next Generation

  1. 4 out of 5

    Kemper

    Did Marvel really wait this long before introducing a version of the Red Skull to their Ultimate universe? Once again Millar puts a nasty and interesting twist on a familiar character by revising the origin story and unleashing a creepy and capable villain in the process. My only complaint is that the idea of Cap going rogue seemed kind of unnecessary, but the results were fun.

  2. 4 out of 5

    Anne

    *Re-Read 2014* 4.5 stars Not sure how this happened, but I definitely like the book better this time around. Not that I even realized it was a re-read until I went to write a review for it... Maybe my tastes have changed over the years, and now I'm more interested in reading about amoral characters? Whatever the reason, I loved it this time around! You wanna know what's weird? Doesn't matter, I'm going to tell you anyway. I had an entirely different reaction to the things I didn't like 4 years ago. Ta *Re-Read 2014* 4.5 stars Not sure how this happened, but I definitely like the book better this time around. Not that I even realized it was a re-read until I went to write a review for it... Maybe my tastes have changed over the years, and now I'm more interested in reading about amoral characters? Whatever the reason, I loved it this time around! You wanna know what's weird? Doesn't matter, I'm going to tell you anyway. I had an entirely different reaction to the things I didn't like 4 years ago. Take Cap using the kindergartners as human shields, for example. First time around I was (evidently) horrified. When I read it this time, my first thought was, Heh. Smart move, Old Man! What's wrong with me?! Apparently, I not only changed my view on the comic book, but I'm also turning into a horrible person. Huh. shrugs *Original Review from 2010* Rating: 3 stars Honestly, I don't know about this one. Part of me really liked it, but another part of me just hated Millar's story line. Captain America and Hawkeye are about the only two characters in the story that I didn't totally hate, but that may just be because I haven't kept up with the Ultimates. Nah. I think it's because even the most iconic Marvel personality tends to be more than just a teensy bit scuzzy in the Ultimates universe. I absolutely loved the touch of scum that Millar gave everyone in Ultimates:Super-Human, but I think that the novelty of it is lost on me at this point. Actually, Millar even managed to taint Captain America in this one. Throughout most of the story Cap was awesome. It was worth reading the whole thing just for the part where he gets taken into custody by the French agents. Ah, good times... Anyway, I do think Millar has a great grasp on what an extreme adversary Steve Rogers could be if he decided that he had been pushed too far. I just think he kinda lost his mind a little bit when he had Rogers use a classroom full of kindergartners as human shields. Really? Um, I thought that it was a tad out of character for Captain America, even in this universe. I'm also still a little iffy on what the hell happened to turn Cap's son into such a psycho. Yes, he was raised on a military compound and tested to see how strong, fast, and smart he was...Oooook. I'm not saying it was a Leave It To Beaver childhood, but how do you parlay that into him gutting everyone on the military base, cutting the skin off of his face (Ewwwwww, by the way!), and turning into a crazy lunatic bent on world destruction? Did the Super Soldier serum make Cap's sperm all wonky or something? Eh, not really sure about that one. Again, maybe I'm missing some key bit of information due to my on-again off-again relationship with Ultimates. Maybe. Ok. I'm not going to say that I'm done with the Ultimates, because I'm sure that I'll get interested in this universe again, but I will say that I'm in no hurry to visit these guys anytime soon.

  3. 4 out of 5

    Daniel Clausen

    This book is next level bonkers: a Captain America who curses and trolls the French, a War Machine who kills civilians, and a Nick Fury who goes the full Samuel Jackson, and more sex, rape, and torture than you can shake a stick at..oh, and I think there is an orgy of cannibalism sprinkled in for good measure. This is not the Avengers you grew up with. Actually, it's closer to the kind of Avengers that might actually exist in the real world. None of them are very likeable, all of them are deeply This book is next level bonkers: a Captain America who curses and trolls the French, a War Machine who kills civilians, and a Nick Fury who goes the full Samuel Jackson, and more sex, rape, and torture than you can shake a stick at..oh, and I think there is an orgy of cannibalism sprinkled in for good measure. This is not the Avengers you grew up with. Actually, it's closer to the kind of Avengers that might actually exist in the real world. None of them are very likeable, all of them are deeply flawed, and the comic doesn't even dare call them heroes. No, they're a Black Ops group. But that's what makes them so interesting. I like the idea of an Ultimate universe that can play around with these characters in different ways. It gives another understanding of who are heroes might be and points to the flaws in their mythos...and I like that. As long as it stays in that other universe.

  4. 4 out of 5

    James DeSantis

    Holy hell I forgot how much of a asshole Ultimate Captain America is. A true asshole but oh so fun. Okay so what's happening after Ultimatium? One of the worst events ever? Well Nick Fury says it perfectly in the first page "What the fuck is this shit?" because really...it's crazy. So we have a Cap who has gone rogue. He's done listening to Shield or anyone after he finds out a secret Red Skull tells him. This time Red Skull has a far more interesting and dark past than before. He's also ruthles Holy hell I forgot how much of a asshole Ultimate Captain America is. A true asshole but oh so fun. Okay so what's happening after Ultimatium? One of the worst events ever? Well Nick Fury says it perfectly in the first page "What the fuck is this shit?" because really...it's crazy. So we have a Cap who has gone rogue. He's done listening to Shield or anyone after he finds out a secret Red Skull tells him. This time Red Skull has a far more interesting and dark past than before. He's also ruthless in his ways and decides to make everyone pay. So Fury creates the Avengers. A elite black ops team ready to face anyone in their way. Good: Super fun and crazy and dumb but it makes it a fast paced fun reading experience. The fights are great, brutal as shit, as Mark usually writes them. I thought the reveal of the Red Skull was pretty fun too. The ending was fucked up but does lead to some interesting choices. Bad: The over the top violence isn't for everyone. I especially thought the Red Skull murdering a child and having a wife murder her husband and then raped is a little disgusting even for me. I also can't seem to "like" anyone as everyone is kind of a asshole. Overall fun and dumb, kind of Millar's way. It's not going to make you a fan of the Ultimates if didn't like them before, but I did, so this works. A 3 out of 5.

  5. 5 out of 5

    Scott

    I really enjoyed this book. My brother-in-law said that it fundamentally shifted how he saw Captain America and that's why I loved it. Millar really took the "Ultimate" shtick of shaking things up to heart and did some great things with these characters. For example: Tony Stark has a brother, Nerd Hulk is exactly that, and Red Skull...well!

  6. 4 out of 5

    Holden Attradies

    This was my first post-Ultimatum read in the ultimate universe, so I wasn't to sure what to expect. Honestly I was expecting utter crap, and this pleasantly surprised me. Now, this wasn't any where's near as good as Ultimates 1 and 2, but I think very few things ever will but. It was most definitely WAY better than Ultimates 3. The artwork was stellar, and up to the high standards set by past Ultimate universe publications, and the story had a pretty solid flow to it. At first I felt like I wasn' This was my first post-Ultimatum read in the ultimate universe, so I wasn't to sure what to expect. Honestly I was expecting utter crap, and this pleasantly surprised me. Now, this wasn't any where's near as good as Ultimates 1 and 2, but I think very few things ever will but. It was most definitely WAY better than Ultimates 3. The artwork was stellar, and up to the high standards set by past Ultimate universe publications, and the story had a pretty solid flow to it. At first I felt like I wasn't getting to know much of anything about all of the new characters that were pretty suddenly introduced, but I felt by the end of the book I had learned a reasonable amount about all of them given how many were introduced and the length of the book. There were a few things that seemed to internally contradict them selves and detract from the story. Unlike others I was okay with the Red Skull being a total sociopath that acted in seeming nonsensical and inhuman ways for no good reason, that seems to be the norm for a sociopath. But the speech he gave at the end about just wanting the cube to set the world right (from the view of his personal narrative) and have grown up with his mom and dad, it came off as him being too sincere and thus ruined being able to explain away his action as simply being that of a sociopath. The second thing was the until now unmentioned older (and seemingly just as successful) Stark brother. It felt a little to obviously made up for this story. I was blown away by the last few pages. I liked seeing Red wasp get her revenge/closure while Fury watched, which seemed very his style. And the next page, where Stark confronts Fury about this all being a plot of his to regain his old position was insanely well played. That next panel where it seems Fury is going to deny it, which I at least thought was the truth, until you read the last panel where WAM he comes right out and admits yes, he planned it all. What an unbelievable, yet consistent, prick. Finally, I was left REALLY wanting to know what was up with the Spider-Man in the the tube. I assume he's a stray/left over Parker Clone. Is he one we've met? Is he one we never saw? I was definitely left wanting to see much more of him.

  7. 5 out of 5

    Mike

    Solid, fast-paced story, crisp dialogue. Great action art (with a few rushed panels), and unrelenting characters. I really enjoy reading these, but I end up feeling a little dirty afterwards. Maybe it's my fear that Millar leans a little too Tea Party, and his books are just thinly-veiled propaganda?

  8. 5 out of 5

    Mike

    We find out who the Ultimate Universe Red Skull is -- and i don't like it much! But I did enjoy the story, warts and all.

  9. 4 out of 5

    Alan

    For the days when Mark Millar used to try to tell a story instead of trying to see how much he could shock people. He avoids much of his typical shock tactics here, and give us what is probably the last, or next to last good Marvel Ultimate universe story. Who knew Captain America had a son, and that son would become the Red Skull? That Nick Fury (drawn to resemble Samuel L. Jackson) would be a bigger bastard than the Skull? There is a large violence quotient, but most of it works within the con For the days when Mark Millar used to try to tell a story instead of trying to see how much he could shock people. He avoids much of his typical shock tactics here, and give us what is probably the last, or next to last good Marvel Ultimate universe story. Who knew Captain America had a son, and that son would become the Red Skull? That Nick Fury (drawn to resemble Samuel L. Jackson) would be a bigger bastard than the Skull? There is a large violence quotient, but most of it works within the context of the story. Oh, and we get to meet Tony Stark's older, smarter, snarkier, and amoral brother Gregory and Fury's ex-wife.

  10. 4 out of 5

    Eric Mikols

    Mark Millar doesn't write subtle stories, but his stories never think they're smarter than they really are. So, this book isn't brilliant but it's fun, in a dumb way, perhaps, but fun.

  11. 5 out of 5

    Martin

    Marvel did the smart thing by getting Millar back on an Ultimate title, if only to win back the readers it lost because of The Ultimates 3: Who Killed the Scarlet Witch? and Ultimatum. These two storylines were okay for me (I've reviewed them as well), but by all accounts they were a big letdown to the readership in general. I won't go over the plot particulars since other reviewers (collectively) have more than sufficiently covered this aspect of the book. Some people don't like Millar's storie Marvel did the smart thing by getting Millar back on an Ultimate title, if only to win back the readers it lost because of The Ultimates 3: Who Killed the Scarlet Witch? and Ultimatum. These two storylines were okay for me (I've reviewed them as well), but by all accounts they were a big letdown to the readership in general. I won't go over the plot particulars since other reviewers (collectively) have more than sufficiently covered this aspect of the book. Some people don't like Millar's stories or dialogue, and that's fine, but at this point in his career one should know what to expect from him and not be surprised or upset when he delivers exactly what he is known for. Millar is Millar. He's figured out what works for him and he's not going to change. Basically, you know what you're getting into. And so, considering this, underneath the traditional Millar shtick of people calling each other "moron" or "idiot" and shock tactics (like throwing a baby out of a window), for sheer entertainment value this gets top marks. This story also marks the third time (by my count) that Millar uses the [now old] technique of flying a plane at/through the bad guy (first one was in The Authority, Vol. 4: Transfer of Power, second one was in Wolverine: Enemy of the State). While still fun to watch, part of me wonders if maybe Millar is running out of ideas. So be on the look-out for another plane-through-bad-guy, as this story arc is already a few years old. ** Also noteworthy: in Nemesis is the highkacking of Air Force One and it being flown/crashed in a petrol tanker. Also, does anyone else think Gregory Stark is a dead ringer for Daniel Craig?

  12. 5 out of 5

    Zelsh

    Maybe it was a mistake to start reading this one as my first comic on the Ultimate Universe. Maybe that was why I didn't enjoy it as much as I wanted. But, normally, I really like reading this kind of adventures, plus, Mark Millar is such a good writer that I honestly thought I was going to love it. But the truth is that I've found it overly-violent, the characters are ALL pretty awful with each other, and part of the main problem is so... dumb. Plus, I still don't know if Steve Rogers was an ass Maybe it was a mistake to start reading this one as my first comic on the Ultimate Universe. Maybe that was why I didn't enjoy it as much as I wanted. But, normally, I really like reading this kind of adventures, plus, Mark Millar is such a good writer that I honestly thought I was going to love it. But the truth is that I've found it overly-violent, the characters are ALL pretty awful with each other, and part of the main problem is so... dumb. Plus, I still don't know if Steve Rogers was an asshole because he was suffering (and stupid, let's be honest, all of his strategic logic is simply not there) or he's just an asshole all the time. And I LOVE Captain America; for me to say that I didn't like Steve... Well. Yeah. That's enough of a statement. And can we please kill the Starks? No, seriously, I can't stand Gregory, and Tony is so, so apathetic here. I think the story as a whole wasn't that bad. But the details, the hows and whys didn't work for me. And that's ok. Maybe they'll work for someone else. Maybe someone else will find Cap's sense of humor here funny or is going to find relatable the fact that none of the characters try to be a team. Anyway, I don't think I'm going to read the rest of this universe, but I'm glad to know about it. The art is amazing, though.

  13. 5 out of 5

    The Book Moo

    This had potential but just didn't live up to my expectations unfortunately!

  14. 5 out of 5

    Kris Ritchie

    I thought this Cap-centric story was actually pretty interesting.

  15. 5 out of 5

    Frans Karlsson

    The Red Skull surfaces and it turns out to be Steve Rogers son

  16. 5 out of 5

    Justin

    After the abomination that was Ultimates 3: Who Killed The Scarlet Witch? (v. 1) and the insult to injury of Ultimatum, Marvel finally wised up and brought Mark Millar back to the title he and Bryan Hitch made famous. This time around they're calling it Ultimate Comics Avengers, and Carlos Pacheco is handling artistic duties, but this initial volume in the Ultimate Avengers reboot has a lot of the same spirit as the excellent The Ultimates Omnibus series. Story - Mark Millar serves up a darker ta After the abomination that was Ultimates 3: Who Killed The Scarlet Witch? (v. 1) and the insult to injury of Ultimatum, Marvel finally wised up and brought Mark Millar back to the title he and Bryan Hitch made famous. This time around they're calling it Ultimate Comics Avengers, and Carlos Pacheco is handling artistic duties, but this initial volume in the Ultimate Avengers reboot has a lot of the same spirit as the excellent The Ultimates Omnibus series. Story - Mark Millar serves up a darker tale this time around. Captain America has gone rogue, the Red Skull (a seriously creepy version of Cap's old nemesis) is after the Cosmic Cube, and Nick Fury is back with a new team of black ops Avengers, including Hawkeye, War Machine and new incarnations of the Hulk, Black Widow and Wasp. It's not like a typical Avengers story, and not much like the previous Ultimates tales either, but even with the focus on new characters and "behind the scenes" maneuvering at SHIELD, it's still a huge relief to see this title back in Mark Millar's able hands. He delivers all the treachery, clever dialogue and brilliantly choreographed action I've come to expect from him. Art - I've been a fan of Carlos Pacheco's style since his earliest works, and he does not disappoint here. I admit it took a while to get used to reading Millar's story without Hitch's brilliant artwork, but Pacheco does a really good job here. He hits the sweet spot between Hitch's realism and Joe Madureira's manga style artwork. The inking and coloring are also first rate. It's obviously not as amazing as the first two Ultimates installments, but it's beyond gratifying to have Mark Millar back writing this team's (or teams') adventures. It's also the perfect story for helping us pretend Ultimates 3 never happened!

  17. 5 out of 5

    Emmett Spain

    It’s Mark Millar. It’s over the top. This you will know if you’ve read a Mark Millar comic before. Taking the reigns off himself even more lately (likely prompted by his success with Kick-Ass), Millar has pumped out uber-violent, saucy language, snappy fare like Nemesis, Kick-Ass 2, and of course this, the successor to his wildly successful and just plain excellent Ultimates series with Bryan Hitch. This series follows the Ultimate Avengers—a black ops style team who handle all the stuff the “day It’s Mark Millar. It’s over the top. This you will know if you’ve read a Mark Millar comic before. Taking the reigns off himself even more lately (likely prompted by his success with Kick-Ass), Millar has pumped out uber-violent, saucy language, snappy fare like Nemesis, Kick-Ass 2, and of course this, the successor to his wildly successful and just plain excellent Ultimates series with Bryan Hitch. This series follows the Ultimate Avengers—a black ops style team who handle all the stuff the “day guys” can’t. What follows is mass murder, cursing, and death-defying theatrics. It’s fun. Crazy, wild fun. The problem is that in making everyone a bad ass—which Millar seems to be working his butt off to do—characterisations are all but flushed down the loo. Captain America talks like a cross between Spider-man and the Punisher, which is the most glaring instance of ‘way off’ characterisation. And in order to establish the bad guy, what do we get? A guy who murders almost 250 people in one sitting, then cuts off his face and licks the knife on a full blown splash page. Yeah. It’s that far over the top. If you haven’t read any of Millar’s earlier work, this may very well blow your mind. But for those who have, this is another exercise in excess that feels like drinking a glass of melted chocolate. Tastes sweet at the time, but makes you feel less than satisfied when you’re done.

  18. 5 out of 5

    C.J. Edmunds

    This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. Just finished it this morning. Like most readers, I felt Cap and Hawkeye were the only two heroes that had a particle of sense. And don't get me started about...NERD Hulk? Dang, the name certainly does him justice. Although I didn't hate it, I didn't love it too much either. Truly Cap is the one that shines here and if the goal of the Ultimate line was to shock and confuse readers? Consider me so. Cap's son carving the skin off his face was pushing the envelope a little too far for me. But the act Just finished it this morning. Like most readers, I felt Cap and Hawkeye were the only two heroes that had a particle of sense. And don't get me started about...NERD Hulk? Dang, the name certainly does him justice. Although I didn't hate it, I didn't love it too much either. Truly Cap is the one that shines here and if the goal of the Ultimate line was to shock and confuse readers? Consider me so. Cap's son carving the skin off his face was pushing the envelope a little too far for me. But the actions panels were packed with a lot goin on and certainly "eye-candy" for one who's sole basis of a good read is visual carnage and spoilage. And for that it gets its rating:) What doesn't get the good rating for me is the sudden change in attitude with regards to Cap's son who turns out to be the villain in this compilation. Fine, he was spirited away and trained to be a second Cap, but just because he was secluded most of his life, he becomes bitter and eventually the villain? You would think that psychiatric profiling and maintenance also occurs at a military facility. What more so in one that is hidden and equally hides the illegitimate son of Steve Rogers. As for Nick Fury, dang he really is one Machiavellian SOB! And I mean it in a good way... of course. Wouldn't want SHIELD to come after me. ;)

  19. 5 out of 5

    Beckiezra

    This was my first exposure to the ultimate universe version of Avengers and even though it's a beginning (issues 1-6) it obviously isn't the very beginning so I was a bit lost at first. It wasn't terribly complicated though so it was mostly some confusion about character backgrounds and connections. Mostly it made me want to find out more. The Red Skull story was interesting enough and the ending was sad. I think all the ultimate stuff is purposely depressing though so happy endings shouldn't be This was my first exposure to the ultimate universe version of Avengers and even though it's a beginning (issues 1-6) it obviously isn't the very beginning so I was a bit lost at first. It wasn't terribly complicated though so it was mostly some confusion about character backgrounds and connections. Mostly it made me want to find out more. The Red Skull story was interesting enough and the ending was sad. I think all the ultimate stuff is purposely depressing though so happy endings shouldn't be expected. The art was nice, though I wanted everyone to look younger than they did. I guess I was used to the idea of Ultimate X-Men where things were taken back to the beginning and everyone seemed like teenagers again just starting as (depressing and cynical) new heroes, though it's been very long since I read any of those. Once again I wish half stars were an option. Emotionally I didn't connect enough to give it 4 stars but I feel like it was a good enough story and art that it deserves more than just the 3 stars I seem to give for not hating something. Merged review: I think this app likes eating my reviews... I know I read this recently but I can't recall what opinions I had at the time.

  20. 4 out of 5

    HSoG Mr Muir

    This book confused me at first. When I picked it up in the charity shop, I just saw Mark Millar’s name and Avengers. I failed to spot the “Ultimate” bit and, having not encountered any previous work from the Ultimate universe, it didn’t really mean anything to me anyway. Hence my confusion. Tony Stark is a useless, untrustworthy drunk... with an obnoxious big brother? Nerd Hulk? Hawkeye with guns? Hmm!? Once I relaxed, I kind of enjoyed it. (Apart from Tony Stark big brother. He remained annoyin This book confused me at first. When I picked it up in the charity shop, I just saw Mark Millar’s name and Avengers. I failed to spot the “Ultimate” bit and, having not encountered any previous work from the Ultimate universe, it didn’t really mean anything to me anyway. Hence my confusion. Tony Stark is a useless, untrustworthy drunk... with an obnoxious big brother? Nerd Hulk? Hawkeye with guns? Hmm!? Once I relaxed, I kind of enjoyed it. (Apart from Tony Stark big brother. He remained annoying throughout.) Worst thing? Some ill judged attempts at humour at the expense of the French. I suspect Millar was aiming for irony but, in my opinion, he missed. (The Hawkeye of humour he is not.) Best thing? Seeing Captain America in action; taking on The Avengers (and the bad guys) and winning! (Not really a spoiler - good guy wins in the end. Surprise!) We see him really living up to the name “Super Soldier”. Super not just in terms of his fighting ability but as super planner and super tactician. Excellent. For letting me see Captain America in this new light, I’m willing to forgive everything that rankled.

  21. 5 out of 5

    Scotty Cameron

    Ultimate Avengers The Next Generation is how the Avengers are introduced into the Ultimate Universe. Captain America meats the Red Skull who turns out to be his son not Nazi commander Johan Schmidt. Captain America goes rogue toe find answers and SHIELD tries to hunt down Captain America and stop the Red Skull from using the Cosmic Cube from creating another Ultimatum. The Ultimate Avengers are NOT the same thing as the Ultimates the Avengers are Punisher (doesn't join until Crime & Punisher Ultimate Avengers The Next Generation is how the Avengers are introduced into the Ultimate Universe. Captain America meats the Red Skull who turns out to be his son not Nazi commander Johan Schmidt. Captain America goes rogue toe find answers and SHIELD tries to hunt down Captain America and stop the Red Skull from using the Cosmic Cube from creating another Ultimatum. The Ultimate Avengers are NOT the same thing as the Ultimates the Avengers are Punisher (doesn't join until Crime & Punishers), War Machine, Nerd Hulk, Red Wasp, Black Widow II, Spider, Greg Stark, and Hawkeye. Though the Avengers are assembled for the same reason Fury gathered the Ultimates as peace keepers to maintain the chaos at a low they're very different. I like it fresh take on the newly introduced characters to the Ultimate Universe War Machine is a Transformers how cool is that. Ultimately (get it) this is far cooler than the Mainstream Avengers Comics I like Ultimate Marvel over Mainstream Marvel.

  22. 4 out of 5

    Rigoberto

    The story of this novel overall was impressive. After the mess that was Ultimatum, it was great to see Mark Millar work on the Ultimate Universe again, this time using more brutal characters like Hawkeye. A change that I did enjoy would be the introduction of Gregory Stark, who turns out to be like Tony without morals and a drinking problem. The story revolves around the Red Skull attempting to create his own Cosmic Cube via Reed Richards's design, in order to fix history to his liking (no spoil The story of this novel overall was impressive. After the mess that was Ultimatum, it was great to see Mark Millar work on the Ultimate Universe again, this time using more brutal characters like Hawkeye. A change that I did enjoy would be the introduction of Gregory Stark, who turns out to be like Tony without morals and a drinking problem. The story revolves around the Red Skull attempting to create his own Cosmic Cube via Reed Richards's design, in order to fix history to his liking (no spoilers). The story is also done well with changing the Red Skull's true identity and how history plays out in the Ultimate Universe. The artwork is well done, and the use of previous characters such as Swarm (from Ultimates 2) was executed properly. I would highly recommend this book, especially to fans of the Ulitmates and Ultimates 2.

  23. 4 out of 5

    Taleisin (Tales of a Bookwyrm)

    I was not really impressed with this incarnation. First the good, I like the premise of the Red Skull coming back, although I thought it was a bit of a stretch to make him Captain America's son. Aside from Nick Fury, Hawkeye (more on him later) and Captain America, these are all copies. Tony Stark's older brother created them. They also add in pieces of the Fantastic Four and a VERY twisted Spiderman. This must be the "next generation" the title refers to. I'll stick with the originals. Since wh I was not really impressed with this incarnation. First the good, I like the premise of the Red Skull coming back, although I thought it was a bit of a stretch to make him Captain America's son. Aside from Nick Fury, Hawkeye (more on him later) and Captain America, these are all copies. Tony Stark's older brother created them. They also add in pieces of the Fantastic Four and a VERY twisted Spiderman. This must be the "next generation" the title refers to. I'll stick with the originals. Since when did Black Widow becomes a job description? Now on to Hawkeye, one of my favourite comic book characters EVER. I hate this incarnation. What is with the costume? The facemask makes him look like some weird science fiction pirate. Also, Hawkeye is SUPPOSED to be an archer, that's part of what makes him so cool. To take that away and give him guns and he's just another vigilante.

  24. 5 out of 5

    Todd

    Mini-rant: Goddiammit, Editors! Why is it so challenging to keep where your characters are? Reed and Johnny showing up in the Fantastic Four uniforms was enough to really jar me out of the story. Johnny is a brunette living with the Parker's and Reed is living at his parents' house! Come the hell on! That said, this is still a fun read. There are some signs that Millar isn't really sure what he wants to do with the Ultimates anymore. Cap spouting lines like "Talk to the hand" and yelling curse wo Mini-rant: Goddiammit, Editors! Why is it so challenging to keep where your characters are? Reed and Johnny showing up in the Fantastic Four uniforms was enough to really jar me out of the story. Johnny is a brunette living with the Parker's and Reed is living at his parents' house! Come the hell on! That said, this is still a fun read. There are some signs that Millar isn't really sure what he wants to do with the Ultimates anymore. Cap spouting lines like "Talk to the hand" and yelling curse words is just out of character for this version of Cap. This Red Skull is a perfect addition to the Ultimate universe. Different from his counterpart in the 616 in a way that is interesting and worth changing.

  25. 5 out of 5

    Marko

    A surprisingly decent read. The only drawback was that this was set in the slightly confusing Ultimate universe that twists all the characters out of whack. It makes it confusing for an irregular reader. The story is very straight-forward with Captain America bumping into the Red Skull for the first time in the modern day (never having encountered him in the days of yore) and finding out that the murderous bastard is actually his... well... bastard. Some of the imagery is very horrible for a pare A surprisingly decent read. The only drawback was that this was set in the slightly confusing Ultimate universe that twists all the characters out of whack. It makes it confusing for an irregular reader. The story is very straight-forward with Captain America bumping into the Red Skull for the first time in the modern day (never having encountered him in the days of yore) and finding out that the murderous bastard is actually his... well... bastard. Some of the imagery is very horrible for a parent, but - overall - this is a simple action story with a small twist and even a little emotional impact.

  26. 5 out of 5

    Mark

    The Marvel Ultimate series restarts their most popular titles with a more modern perspective. This book picks up after the events of Ultimatum. Nick Fury has been fired and Captain America has gone rogue. Tony Stark's big brother lends a hand as well as a kinder, gentler Hulk. This is an interesting story that provides a new take on Red Skulls origin. However, it seems mundane compared with the pre-Ultimatum story-line. Notes War Machine plays rough. Learning Curve Moderate: Readers new to the series The Marvel Ultimate series restarts their most popular titles with a more modern perspective. This book picks up after the events of Ultimatum. Nick Fury has been fired and Captain America has gone rogue. Tony Stark's big brother lends a hand as well as a kinder, gentler Hulk. This is an interesting story that provides a new take on Red Skulls origin. However, it seems mundane compared with the pre-Ultimatum story-line. Notes War Machine plays rough. Learning Curve Moderate: Readers new to the series might be confused.

  27. 5 out of 5

    Noah Soudrette

    Mark Millar's original two Ultimates series are some of my favorite all time comics. This is not them. Not even close. Ever since Marvel manded the ultimate reigns over to Jeff Loeb, the whole things been a cluster fuck. While the story here isn't terrible and the characters are mildly amusing, I would avoid this. especially if you're a fan of the original Ultimates. The Ultimate universe is dead.

  28. 4 out of 5

    Megan M

    The Ultimate version of Red Skull is heartbreaking story. This volume is all about broken and lost families - the Cap and Red Skull, the Stark brothers, Red Wasp's backstory. It's intense, with plenty of action, but also a lot of great character moments for those that read comics to get to know the people behind the mask. I was impressed by both the story and the art and would recommend this to any fan of Mark Millar's work.

  29. 5 out of 5

    TJ Shelby

    Most of the Ultimate comics series, while given carte blanche to redo that particular world, I think it's going to take some time before I adjust to how drastic Millar has rocked the Avengers world. Or maybe just read it a few more times. I actually like the origin story behind the Red Skull. It fundamentally shifts how I see Captain America and I'm still unsure how I feel about that. It'll be fun to see where Millar takes this.

  30. 4 out of 5

    Luis Silva

    Though the art wasn't as awe-inspiring as Bryan Hitch's, and Millar's writing felt a little condensed, this one introduced some surprisingly interesting concepts. (Such as Millar's take on the Red Skull.) Really, my main complaint was that I wanted to read more about the characters introduced within these pages, but that's not really a complaint, is it? Check it out!

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